I did the change because it seemed convenient to have the volume double as the "arc name" as well (each volume conveniently corresponds to an arc each, according to the data books), something I thought neccessary after realizing that the canon arc names deviated to a large extent from the Web Novel arc names.
In addition, since the manga chapters and anime episodes were named after their title instead of their number, I thought it would make sense to apply the same logic to the Light Novel as well, escpacially for things like the "first appearence" sections of the infoboxes.
So based on that I see no reason to change them back unless there is a particular reason why LN volumes and their corresponding arc names have to be seperate. As far as I am concerned, going back to WN arc names, or trying to somehow "mix" the WN and LN arc titles are bad ideas, as that is exactly what currently plagues this wiki the most. WN and LN drifted too far apart to mix them together at this point and it will only get worse later, based on spoilers I heard.
But if you do have a very good reason to seperate the LN volumes from their respective arc titles despite the redundancy it causes, then I'd be willing to go along with it, of course.
Well the reason why is Ln Volume X is named like that, so new users will not be confused. I feel it doesn't make sense to name the volumes after their arcs, so please rename the Light novels back to their original name.
It is better to leave it as Light Novel Volume X, then we know that the LN is under a specific arc. For those not familiar with the light novel, or want to get started will be confused. This wiki is aimed at being very user-friendly.
If that were true, then wouldn't naming chapters after their titles, or anime episodes after their titles be "confusing to new users" as well? I don't understand why you specifically single out the LN volumes like that when it's very evidently common for each release in it's smallest available form to be named by its title rather than their number of release.
Why do you consider "Demon Lord Awakening" being the pagename of the fifth LN volume more confusing than "Shizu" being the pagename for the sixth anime episode? Isn't that solved by having the links on the relevant pages include the chapter/episode number for manga/anime? Why is that solution OK for the manga/anime but not for the LN?
Rather, the format I introduced resolved the issue in the "first appearence" sections where Web Novel, Manga and Anime all had the neat format of "Chapter X: title(-with-link)" or "Episode X: title-with-link", while only the LN stuck out like a sore thumb with "Light Novel Volume X" entirely as a link.
That is how we have been doing this for months, you can't just come and change it also manga and anime they are already have redirects. I have asked you nicely, please change the LN pages back to their formats.
Sharing my thoughts/POV as a fellow admin and wiki editor, as well as the one that started the original naming scheme for LN volume articles.
If it's just a matter of renaming pages, then I don't think it's a problem. Redirects exist for these reasons. Light Novel Volume 1 can be the main title, with Empowerment as a redirect. The LN pages can still double as an arc page, and you can keep the format you introduced in the first appearance/debut sections.
The main reason I created LN page titles as they were was to differentiate between LN and manga volumes (e.g. Light Novel Volume 1 and Manga Volume 1). Some wikis used similar methods, so I figured I could apply those here.
When it became apparent that WN and LN content had some major differences, the original arc pages were marked as WN exclusive. Instead of creating new arc pages for the LN, the volume pages were used instead. This seemed fine to me; some wikis also use LN volumes as arc pages.
To be honest, I wasn't expecting the pages to be renamed. But they have redirects and categories, and are also linked in some navboxes, so I thought it wasn't a big deal. Then I saw this thread.
To reiterate, I'm in favor of renaming the pages back to their original titles, provided that the contents are left alone.
Page names should be as close as possible to the typical search term for a reader's intent. A page name for an episode should be that episode's title, rather than the episode's number or production code. However, these codes can be placed somewhere in the article (usually in the infobox).
Not sure how this applies to our situation, but it's something to keep in mind.
Excuse me!? What do you mean "by new years"? You are quite something to call me out for "coming out of nowhere" when you were inactive for 6+ months without objecting to anything I did so far and now you answered my question about "a good reason" for changing the volumes back with "because we always did it like that!"... fine, difference of opinion. Everyone might have their own preferences. If it went that way and you followed up more like BrainDeadZero I'd most likely relent anyway, since it'd ultimately just lead to longer links at worst and there'd be no issues otherwise.
But "by new years", really? Did you really just write that? Are you actually, seriously, unironically, setting a deadline for me? Do you think you are my "nicely asking" boss or something?
You know what? If you really like your old policies and the site you basically abandoned for months so much, then have it your way on your own dime. This is it, then, since I can already foresee our views diverging more and more in the future. I feel like just from the few exchanges of words, I doubt we'd ever be able to get along.
I guess I quit from my long-term committment here (making order out of the mess of self-contradictory WN/LN mixing), aside from the occasional edit I feel like doing. Well, have fun with your old policies, Toji-san (assuming you aren't going straight back into inactivity after this stunt). In regards to this series I'll do something more productive in the meantime, e.g. proofread the main manga scanlations like I did for chapter 66.
And sorry, BrainDeadZero, I feel like you are the one losing out most from this despite you not having done anything wrong.
Well, this rant aside, have a nice 2020, everyone!
I was inactive because I was entering college, also I kindly asked you to do this because Zero agreed with me, if he didn't I wouldn't have pushed the issue further.
Also, it wasn't really a deadline just saying I wanted the redirects to be done quickly. For your rude remarks, which I will not take to heart cause I have been working on this wiki far longer than you and one of the major reasons, you are coming to this wiki to edit due to the changes I made. I simply asked you to do something and my other admin agreed with me, which is democracy I believe.
But out of pettiness, you have decided to leave when all I asked was that you redirect the light novel pages back to their original state, all I can say is that it might be a loss for the wiki but as with life people move on, I am sure when season 2 starts more editors will come.