Talk:Rank/@comment-37485921-20190728045743/@comment-10330822-20190728063650

Actually, Clayman wasn't S-Class, he's A+-Class. He only has a fraction of the EP, 1/10 to be exact, that a True Demon Lord like Rimuru has. Chloe was also a Demi-God with Absolute Severance, Infinite Prison, and Absolute Defense, so her skills made her more dangerous than Veldora even if Veldora has more EP. Skills like Infinite Prison are broken in that they are effective regardless of EP or skills because they negate those skills effects.

However, your point is still on the money, even if the examples aren't.

The problem is, with any level system, is that they get more unreliable the higher the system goes. For example, in this series, the strongest beings are usually A+-Class, S-Class, or SS-Class, but the disparity between those classes are immense. There is roughly a x10 increase from A+ to S-Class, so much so that simply going to S-Class can make all the difference in a fight, i.e. Leon's fight with Kazarem and Rimuru's fight with Hinata.

But at the same time, if the EP is close the difference comes down to battle prowess and skills. For example, even though Diablo had much more EP than Benimaru, he still lost to him in the Tempest Revival Festival.

EP is only really reliable as a strength calculator when it is a vast difference. Frey even pointed this out that it is kind of a joke to have Self-Proclaimed Demon Lords like her, Karion, and Clayman pretend to be equals to True Demon Lords like Rimuru, Milim, and Guy.

As such, the higher classes have value only because they are denoting something that is far more dangerous than something else.

Milim for example is strong enough to wipe countries off the map, so she can't be compared to say a Holy Knight who is the same level as a Self-Proclaimed Demon Lord, so obviously she can't have the same Disaster Ranking. At the same time, the level of damage Milim does on a minimum level is nothing compared to what she does in full power, which is literally wipping a portion of the map into a barren wasteland.

This is why you need things like A+-Class, S-Class, and SS-Class to emphasize how these beings compare.

Also, if we are talking about Guy and Milim, it isn't necessarily that Guy has a tremendous amount of EP, in fact, I don't even think its been confirmed he was over 10,000,000EP or not when he fought Milim. Since his evolution to Demon God only seems to be recent.

That battle with Milim was reletively close because (1) she didn't have full control of herself and so couldn't use her power correctly (2) Guy's Ultimate Skill is Prideful King Lucifer which he can use to copy a weaker version of Wrathful King Satan, meaning Guy had a power boost because of that copied skill and because he has the ability to perform a higher mental performance.

Milim's berserk state is very dangerous for Milim herself even if she has enough EP to power the skill, because the most consumed she gets with rage the more harm she does herself in the long run. That was the entire reason Ramiris needed to calm Milim down to stop her using Origin Magic.

Also, Origin Magic is basically plot-convinent magic because it doesn't operate on rules, you turn feelings and desires into effects regardless of EP or actual power. That's why Ramiris could effect Milim despite the massive disparity between their power.