Talk:WN/Sovereign Alliance of the Nasca Namrium Ulmeria Empire/@comment-26086835-20160616214327/@comment-26086835-20160618041915

well clayman, frey and karion level is demon count while diablo , testarossa , carrera , ultima , is demon duke only a level below demon lord (leon , ruminas & dino)

but the difference between demon lord, duke , count , viscount , baron , baronet and chevalier is not their skill but only their magical amount or known as EP or TP, since demon Duke magical amount is above 400.000 for example diablo's EP is 444.000 while true demon lord's EP is more than 1.000.000 , by the way Viscount is below 250.000 and the one veldora mentioned as fake demon lord is demon count class

thus it doesn't mean demon count couldn't beat true demon lord. that's why milim already stated it. that she's gonna had a hard time if she fought against carion and clayman at the same time

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and beside i wonder when it stated that veldora is the strongest dragon (i only know that he is the youngest from the 4 dragon kind) since before he meet rimuru he only had a unique skill investigator while velzard already had ultimate skill patience king gabriel and velgrind already had ultimate skill Charity king raguel