Talk:Milim Nava/@comment-43632775-20190904202826/@comment-10330822-20190907201126

Indeed he is. To put into perspective, let's say a A+-Class has an EP of 200,000+

If you are A+-Class you can become a "Self-Proclaimed Demon Lord" which is to say you can take on the title of Demon Lord, and as long as you can defend yourself, you can retain the title and be acknowledged. This is what Clayman did, he is A+-Class.

Funny thing is, Rimuru was A+-Class after he devoured the Orc Disaster. Meaning he was at a level comparable to the other "Self-Proclaimed Demon Lords" like Clayman, Karion, and Frey.

However, a "True" Demon Lord, or an "Awakened Demon Lord" is on an entirely different level. They are S-Class, which is to say they have EP of around 2,000,000+. They are x10 stronger than a self-proclaimed demon lord.

That is what Milim was when she met Rimuru, and what Rimuru became after he slaughtered the Falmas army. This is supported from that fact that Raphael stated that Rimuru's magicule levels grew 10x what they were, which was previously the difference between Rimuru and Milim.

A True Demon Lord is worlds apart from the self-proclaimed, especially if they have Ultimate Skills. Not only do mental manipulating abilities like Clayman's Puppeteer not work, but they are completely helpless against the Ultimate Skills.

To summon up that "fight". Clayman tried to use Puppeteer on Shion, but Rimuru used Decay from Beelzebub before Clayman even noticed, and stole the skill. He then held Clayman down with his own skill and used Thought Acceleration to accelerate his senses. Shion then beat the living crap out of him for a few seconds but to Clayman it felt like hours. Clayman, white with terror and fear, confesssed his plans to Rimuru before Rimuru used Beelzebub to devour him, soul and all. He then took Clayman's place at the table, as the tenth Demon Lord.

The beating was so severe and one-sided, that it caused Karion and Frey to step down as Demon Lords, as they were no stronger than Clayman and realized just how outclassed they were by the True Demon Lords. Hence why at the end of the banquet, it went from the "Ten Great Demon Lords" to the "Eight Star Demon Lords" (The Octogram).